Toyota drops the price of bZ3 by $2,800 on its first day of sales Comments
552- Fearghast
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Ano, 14 Mar 2023You haven't seen any review of bz4x surely? And also comparing oranges vs apples. That li... moreWell that was fortunate, as Savageese released video review on bZ4x.
https://youtu.be/Tc0ElUSqn5s?t=142
552- Fearghast
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Ano, 14 Mar 2023You haven't seen any review of bz4x surely? And also comparing oranges vs apples. That li... moreI am comparing cars in the same size category and even made by the same manufacturer.
bZ4X is worse than RAV4 PHV in every regard but EV range, bZ4X efficiency is poor - not compared to Volvo, Audi, Škoda ... no, compared to other Toyota vehicles.
bZ4X is not a downright bad vehicle compared to competition, but it is a bad Toyota car.
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Fearghast, 11 Mar 2023Interior in bZ4X is questionable, and seating comfort is incredibly poor, especially for passe... moreYou haven't seen any review of bz4x surely? And also comparing oranges vs apples. That little pure on ev range doesn't give the overall result as the rest of the power delivery is from gasoline. Bz4x has good efficiency.
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Fearghast, 11 Mar 2023Interior in bZ4X is questionable, and seating comfort is incredibly poor, especially for passe... moreInterior in bZ4X is questionable, and seating comfort is incredibly poor, especially for passengers - it is even more amplified when you have RAV4 and bZ4X right next to each other ... not to mention RAV4 PHV is even a tiny bit more efficient in terms of real kWh per 100 km in real usage.
You haven't seen any review of bz4x surely? And also comparing oranges vs apples. That little pure on ev range doesn't give the overall result as the rest of the power delivery is from gasoline. Bz4x has good efficiency.
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Anonymous , 11 Mar 2023The only problem bz series had charging speed and battery performance in cold weather. Otherwi... moreInterior in bZ4X is questionable, and seating comfort is incredibly poor, especially for passengers - it is even more amplified when you have RAV4 and bZ4X right next to each other ... not to mention RAV4 PHV is even a tiny bit more efficient in terms of real kWh per 100 km in real usage.
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Fearghast, 10 Mar 2023Even Toyota is not happy with bZ3 regarding safety ... that does not mean it still won't ... moreThe only problem bz series had charging speed and battery performance in cold weather. Otherwise it's a good car so far. Toyota already proven that pair with BYD. I don't what Chinese wanna rich kids found in Tesla toys with trash built quality
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Anonymous , 10 Mar 2023But bz3 is really promising with good range, quality and reliability of Toyota Even Toyota is not happy with bZ3 regarding safety ... that does not mean it still won't be a good car. On the other hand bZ3, even with Toyota reputation, which is pretty much zero in China can hardly compete on that particular market.
Regarding previous post - it feels like stating unnecessary information that pretty much every one knows.
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Fearghast, 08 Mar 2023TBH, all the hate I see is pointed at bZ4X and this time partially at bZ3 that shares the same... moreBut bz3 is really promising with good range, quality and reliability of Toyota
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Fearghast, 08 Mar 2023TBH, all the hate I see is pointed at bZ4X and this time partially at bZ3 that shares the same... moreToyota isn't really much serious about the pure ev segment rn. Their top selling vehicles are still hev or phev. Ev will be mainstream in coming 5-10 years. Toyota is planning for that being the most advanced in ss battery tech. And with the most amount of liquid money in hand we know what they're able to do. Even they're the most profitable car maker as well.
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Fearghast, 08 Mar 2023Toyota suffers the same fate Tesla will face as well. China is an incredibly volatile, fast m... moreChinese brands are still not highly available for the outer world. Special in the US, the highest car sales market outside China. And Toyota's main sales are still not pure evs. They lead all the way in the world. It's not like Ford or GM or VW which are only regional top. Even for ev market Toyota is going to be top sooner or later because they're the most advanced in solid state battery patent. And added up reliability, even old brands can will hardly outnumber Toyota in future.
552- Fearghast
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Anonymous, 08 Mar 2023I'm a bit fed up with the anti Toyota bias in Arena EV. Based on the very low volume of c... moreTBH, all the hate I see is pointed at bZ4X and this time partially at bZ3 that shares the same platform.
IMHO, all the criticism pointed at bZ4X is more than deserved, I would be even less nice than EV Arena, because I actually sat in that vehicle.
Would be nice if they would cover new Prius PHV more through. It is looking like an excellent car that might put a lot of pure EVs to shame, but what can you do - it is EV Arena, not Hybrid Arena :D
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I'm a bit fed up with the anti Toyota bias in Arena EV. Based on the very low volume of comments in this site it doesn't look like you have readers to spare, and you are about to lose one.
552- Fearghast
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Toyota suffers the same fate Tesla will face as well.
China is an incredibly volatile, fast market and Tesla ... let alone Toyota can't keep up with Chinese brand EVs.
Toyota not having a decent EV platform on the market certainly does not help the efforts when it comes to performance and packaging - bZ3 would be more than enough for Europe (if it would not be saloon) where one of the most sold EVs is tosh like iD4, but on more completive market, they will have much harder time to even catch attention.
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