Pino, 27 Aug 2024I understand the desire for cheap EV cars from China, but it's important to consider the ... moreI don't know a single car that's getting made in Canada and that's because they're all trash.
If Canada was really pro EV pro Green. They would pay automakers in Canada r&d in subsidies so that the countries shitty cars finally escape being shit.
Pino, 27 Aug 2024I understand the desire for cheap EV cars from China, but it's important to consider the ... morelevel the playing field by increase tariff 100% and have they increased spending or benefits to local businesses to start r&d electric vehicles by the same amount? or is it just hoping these businesses will build factories in your country because there is no tech or infrastructure in place for it?
Pino, 27 Aug 2024There is substantial evidence that the Chinese government subsidizes electric vehicle (EV) man... morelogic here is if they do it its unfair and state sponsored, but if we do it, its for the environment.
How is this bad that the government wants to promote a certain industry for their goals? Why did they not invest heavily into petrol cars? Aren't other countries giving tax benefits for being evs too? but thats not worth criticizing because they aren't doing too good. But are they engaged in monopolistic practice? how odd
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Tesla is not the only manufacturer that sells Chinese made EVs in Canada.
Polestar and Volvo sell models made in China. (Also, there are also non-EV cars made in China sold in Canada, like some Buick and Lincoln models, but there's no mention on tariffs for ICE cars...)
Pino, 27 Aug 2024I understand the desire for cheap EV cars from China, but it's important to consider the ... moremostly a skill issue.
there's no actual canadian auto industry and there's certainly/definitely no innovation in canada.
stop taking credit for americans.
Pino, 27 Aug 2024I understand the desire for cheap EV cars from China, but it's important to consider the ... moreYou cannot preserve something that does not exist. If they want more local jobs, they should invite Chinese car makers to build in Canada or collab with local car makers. According to which survey or statistic US, Canada lost jobs in automobile sector because of a Chinese EV? This is just make believe fear mongering. They are just supporting oil and fear EVs taking over.
Pino, 27 Aug 2024There is substantial evidence that the Chinese government subsidizes electric vehicle (EV) man... moreAll governments provide such subsidies to promote EV adoption. The reason why China is more successful is because auto industry there has been more forward thinking. Unlike the old laggards here who feel EV is just a hype and roll out expensive EVs made with old outdated architecture, waste the govt. subsidies and barely spend on RnD. Chinese manufacturers keep updating and innovating, its not subsidies alone which has given them the lead.
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Governments never care about the people. Who do they think will end up paying that 100 percent tax?
L, 27 Aug 2024I thought this country likes capitalism.
Got democracy.
But found out that most western coun... moreYou seem to have misunderstood the terms 'democracy' and 'socialism'. For clear, objective definitions, I'd recommend checking out the Wikipedia articles on these topics. They provide good overviews with reliable sources. Understanding these concepts will improve your political discussions.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism
Leanzazzy, 27 Aug 2024Both shameless & hypocritical. They can't be bothered to improve their own local prod... moreI understand the desire for cheap EV cars from China, but it's important to consider the broader economic implications. The Chinese government's substantial subsidies for their EV manufacturers create an uneven playing field in the global market. It's reasonable for countries like Canada to implement protective measures to support their domestic industries and maintain fair competition.
These tariffs may increase prices in the short term, but they can help preserve local manufacturing jobs and foster innovation in the Canadian auto industry. In the long run, this could lead to a more diverse and resilient EV market, benefiting consumers and the economy alike.
It's a complex issue, but the decision of the government of Canada and the other countries is a justifiable response to market distortions caused by foreign subsidies.
There is substantial evidence that the Chinese government subsidizes electric vehicle (EV) manufacturers. Since 2009, the government has provided over $230 billion in various forms of support, including direct subsidies, tax breaks, and infrastructure funding. This financial backing has helped China become the largest EV market globally, with significant growth in production and sales. These subsidies for Chinese EV manufacturers distort competition as they have given them an unfair advantage in the global market.
I thought this country likes capitalism.
Got democracy.
But found out that most western countries are slowly following the path of socialism.
Socialists will win the end.
It's near, very dear.
Just wait to cheer.
Clear?
Being a Canadian, it seems that Trudeau's policies are quite against a globalized Canadian economy. As a consumer I would like to be able to freely choose if I want a Chinese EV or a locally produced EV. Creating entry barriers actually encourages monopolistic business practices in Canada. Ultimately, a 100% tariff is paid by the consumer and goes into the government's pocket - the manufacturer in question (i.e BYD) doesn't really have much of an impact in that transaction (apart from the fact that they lose potential sales because of the tariff). If we really want to encourage EV adoption, we have to think ahead and find a way to encourage healthy competition in the EV space - just as we do for ICE cars.
Both shameless & hypocritical. They can't be bothered to improve their own local products, so instead they try to ban and impose tariffs on cheaper, imported products.
If something imported is still cheaper and better than your local stuff, YOU are the problem. You need to improve. Don't try to pull an Apple and ban everything else.
As others have said, the consumers are the ones who will suffer from this move.
Tariffs only hurt the end consumer as the consumer needs to pay more for the same unit that can be bought cheap.
Govs play eco-geo policies and citizens pay the ticket price.
Kindly put 100% tariffs on other electronic devices that also comes from china (devices like mobile, laptop, pc, fridge, heater, tv etc. and more of those list).
Thank you.
Anonymous, 27 Aug 2024Why this partiality towards china. Slam tariffs on european EVS too. On one hand they blame ch... more100% of the time, canada is a follower nation.
in this era, it follows the us.
lol if you think westerners actually care about greenhouse emissions.
they only care now because it has immediate negative consequences directly impacting them.
africa is projected to be around 3 billion pop by 2050.
where do you think they will go. india, lol. definitely not, china.
good luck europe.
Why this partiality towards china. Slam tariffs on european EVS too. On one hand they blame china for greenhouse emissions, on other hand they block EV sales in their own country and increase vehicular pollution. Hypocrites.
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