Electric car sales keep climbing globally - 29% up this year already Comments

• Anonymous
• 3Tr
• 19 hours ago

Anonymous, 15 Apr 2025Its the import duties, bans and tariffs in Europe and US which are keeping the gasoline car nu... moreICEs are still cheaper to make and they don't even use fancy techniques like giga casting to lower the price. And I am talking about both types of cars made in China, not China vs EU or USA where production costs are much higher.
So you can moan about tariffs, import duties and whatever else, ICE cars are cheaper to make because they don't have batteries unlike EVs.

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• Anonymous
• 3Tr
• 19 hours ago

Anonymous, 15 Apr 2025That's gross misinterpretation. Considering China is also the biggest automarket. "C... moreChina doesn't have anywhere near >50% of ICE market and import duties are not exclusive for EVs.
EVs in China are heavily subsidized, so the difference in price compared to ICE is smaller. Get rid of them and the EV sales will plumet in China, because ICEs are cheaper so people will chose them instead.

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• Anonymous
• rK8
• 15 Apr 2025

Anonymous, 15 Apr 2025Let's see the hard facts from the source. Snapshot electric vehicle sales in Q1 2025 v... moreIts the import duties, bans and tariffs in Europe and US which are keeping the gasoline car numbers high. Carmakers outside china are atleast 15 years behind in tech and EV architecture, its not just subsidies. VW doesn't have glitch free software till date. 800V EVs with gigacasting are cheaper to make with lesser parts. Most EU and US carmakers don't use that tech and try to make expensive outdated EVs that can't compete which chinese EVs in market.

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• Anonymous
• rK8
• 15 Apr 2025

Anonymous, 15 Apr 2025Let's see the hard facts from the source. Snapshot electric vehicle sales in Q1 2025 v... moreThat's gross misinterpretation. Considering China is also the biggest automarket. "China Alone" theory also hods true for ICE cars. Doesn't mean the huge number of ICE cars china sells are because of subsidies. Currently the only thing preventing EVs from being 53% in rest of the world is import duties and tariffs.

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• Anonymous
• 3Tr
• 15 Apr 2025

Let's see the hard facts from the source.

Snapshot electric vehicle sales in Q1 2025 vs Q1 2024, YTD %
Global: 4.1 million, +29%
China: 2.4 million, +36%
Europe: 0.9 million, +22%
North America: 0.5 million, +16%
Rest of World: 0.3 million, +27%

So China is responsible for 58% of sales of the whole EV market. Excluding China you end up with only 1.7 million sold worldwide and this includes both BEV and PEHV and the reason why in China they are selling so well is because of subsidies.
Sales of EVs are heavily reliant on subsidies, remove them and you will sell a lot less of them, because they cost more than the gasoline ones.

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